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980810
Cyrix 5x86
Continued from #980809
Windows 98 and PS/55.
There are few variations in Cyrix 5x86 CPU.
1) 5x86 100GP 3x
2) 5x86 100GP 4x ( 25MHz
x4 )
3) 5x86 120GP 3x ( basicaly
40MHz x3. Pre-production sample of 30Mhz x4 version rated 120GP
were once sold in the market )
4) 5x86 133
4x ( 33MHz x4 )
5) IBM 5x86-100 3x
6) and others made by TI ( Texas Instruments
) and ST ( SGS Thomson ) .
It's relatively easy to get 1), 3) and 5) but it's hard
to get 2) and 4) . I was very lucky that I got
these 4x models. Among above 5 models, 4x models
rated 100MHz seemed be a different beast. It even can
tolerate 133MHz operation if it get cooled well ( at least
for a few hours. I haven't ever run it in 133MHz for a day or more
). When I got 4x 133MHz model I really expected that
it would be the best CPU among all of 486/586 class CPUs.
But it seemed that 133MHz 4x model is a bit different from 100MHz
4x model. In the same system and with same cache setting, 4x
100MHz version and 4x 133MHz version scored different result. 100MHz
rated model gives higher performance result in general as if there are
major difference in core design.
Sorry I'm not an expert about this issue
so I can't tell definitely yes or no )
Added on 2002/10/06 : Sysbench
under OS/2 Warp connect, performance result were almost
same as if they are same products. Really strange....
Benchmark programs usually reports that Cyrix 5x86s are
slower than AMD am5x86-133 but if you run business software you'll
get better performance with Cyrix 5x86 rather than with am5x86.
If you use an appropriate cache program to activate L1 WB function
of Cyrix CPU, system performance will be boosted.
One of such program is et586.exe which contained in et9060.exe provided
by Evergreen. et586.exe should be placed in your config.sys
with appropriate option switches in HEX value to activate registers.
In order to determine HEX values you can use a nice EXL file which was
written by Mr. F355, a guy who reported Clock up Method of Reply M.70 PowerBoard.
To use this program, you have to install analyzing tool using TOOL>ADDIN>Analyzing
Tool in M$ Excel.
5551-R : EIDE without SPOCK SCSI
5551-N : SCSI, IML
Parameter setting for ET586.EXE ; Install c:\ ETI\ET586.EXE
/CCR2=56 /CCR4=1D /WBE
|
|
HDBENCH
|
|
ETDIAG |
RMKS |
|
Speed
|
Float P. |
Integer |
|
Dhrystone |
|
5551-R + Win98 |
Cyrix5x86-100 4x |
133MHz |
3877
|
6585
|
|
92592 |
Enabled |
Cyrix5x86-100 4x |
133MHz |
3762
|
6102
|
|
45872 |
NOT loaded |
Cyrix5x86-120 3x |
99MHz |
3178
|
4970
|
|
65789 |
Enabled |
Cyrix5x85-120 3x |
99MHz |
3093
|
4635
|
|
45871 |
NOT loaded |
am5x86-133
4x |
133MHz |
3583
|
5759
|
|
65789 |
*3 |
DX4ODP100 35 x3 |
105MHz |
2691
|
5373
|
|
|
|
PODP5V83 33 x2.5 |
88MHz |
2565
|
4962
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
5551-N + W95 |
Cyrix5x86-120 3x |
99MHz |
3130
|
4690
|
|
|
not recorded |
Cyrix5x86-120 3x |
126MHz |
3910
|
5929
|
|
|
not recorded |
am5x86-133 42 x4 |
168MHz |
3883
|
7028
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
5551-N + Win98 |
Cyrix5x86-120 *1 |
120MHz |
3716
|
5575
|
|
53763 |
NOT loaded |
Cyrix5x86-120 *1 |
120MHz |
3704
|
5561
|
|
56818 |
Enabled |
Cyrix5x86-100
4x |
133MHz |
3791
|
6162
|
|
|
not recorded |
Am5x86-133 4x |
166MHz |
4200
|
6776
|
|
51020 |
*2 |
*1 No remarkable improvement observed on 5551-N
with or without ET586.exe.
*2 As already reported in 980809, am5x86
and IBM SPOCK will run in MS-DOS compatibility
mode
under Windows98.
*3 Write-Back caching enabled with PL586 interposer.
et9603.exe
; contains DOS, Win NT and OS/2 drivers and associated
programs
run the program with /d switch ( or -d whatever you like )
for directory sorting.
5x86rege.zip
; EXL file for calculating HEX values of et586 cache driver.
Written by Mr. F355.
SGS4191.pdf ; ST5x86 Data sheet by SGS-Thomson.
5x86.exe
; PeterMoss's 5x86 Utility
Update. 2002.10.05
Quoted comments regarding Cyrix CPU in the News Group
Tim Clark wrote to the News Group on 2002/09/01.
" IMHO, the Cyrix/IBM 5x86 is the better bet, as it has
notionally better performance than even a
PODP83. Especially if you can find a 4x chip for
33MHz core. This would approximate to a P100.
> :>It's been my experience that the POD 'feels'
faster with graphical
> :>operating systems. YMMV.
> :>
> :>> Also, could this thing run OS/2 Warp 4? Would
you get good performance?
> :>
> :>It should, although the gurus will probably
tell you that Warp 3 is a
> :>better match for this machine.
Quite possibly, the "page-tuning" of the Warp
3 "core", although probably lost to some extent by the
significant no. of FixPaks issued since, is
very likely to give better memory performance on systems
limited to 64MB max."
Jim Sherney replied,
" I will agree that the performance of the IBM-branded
Cyrix 5x86 chips is somewhat astonishing.
Dunno about the Cyrix-branded ones, I've heard rumors
that IBM tweaked the microcode in thier
version. Meaningless benchmarks
on my P70 page show that the IBM 5x86-100 compares very
favorably to the AMD 133, despite the lower core
speed. It resides in my P75 now. I'd love to get my
hands on the 4x version."
Tim replied,
" It's a difficult question to determine at what point
the Cyrix and IBM-labelled chips became the same.
Initially, the M9/M1SC chip design was outsourced
to various fabrication companies, IBM being only
one (TI and ST also being in there). In a later
deal, IBM took on the majority of the fabrication, with
one of those "we'd like to brand x% for our own
use" deals. At this point there was some further
"production engineering" and development work done
to increase yield and, I believe, shrink the die.
TI and ST continued to lease the design with the
older spec. well after the IBM fabrication ended, as
their core voltage requirements tended to be ~3.6V
rather than the Cyrix/IBM 3.45V. I may have some
of the details wrong, but that's mostly correct,
I think. Certainly, any Cyrix 5x86-nnn/4X will be a
late IBM fab."
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